Biblical discipline doesn't mean you treat them badly- or not be around them. It means that you have limits on what you do with them until they come around. You still reach out to them, still love them.

Duhhh Leave me alone go play by you self.

tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector. Last of you Scripture duhhh bits riverman oh look a trinity

@tntrecycling: did Christ hate the tax collector or the pagans. If I remember correctly he chose a tax collector as an apostle and ate and dined with them.. I actually remember Him saying that he came for people like the tax collector and the pagan- because he loved them. You speak hate towards a person, Jesus never spoke of hate- only love.

Duhhh don't care I can show you can twist no reasoning with you don't want to discuss with liars Hipkat said he was and I know you are to .

@tntrecycling: you shun with hate= we discipline with love. Big difference and less hateful feelings.

AverageJoe --- I am still here if YOU would like to continue our discussion. I truly know Tim and he is the most kind generous and giving person I know. He would give the coat off his back if you truly needed BUT some have brought out the imperfection in us all. Not that we don't love discussing our beliefs but how can we when we constantly are told by some that JW's are nothing but a cult and brainwash. Especially when one of them does not even give us scriptures or explain why he believes the way he does because he is too focused on downing us. I will discuss with you BUT I REFUSE TO DISCUSS WITH HIPKAT FROM NOW ON. That is my choice right? And Duhh if you can get Hipkat from following you around like a lost puppy--I might continue to discuss with you

Believe me Hip doesn't follow me around. You must not know our history. But it does say something where he sees the inconsistency of your doctrine. Even us dogs get it right sometimes. Especially when I post scriptures that show the twisting ways of the JW translators.

@mrstnt: That's because they ARE a cult, and you ARE brainwashed

Well what we and others see is some one has there hand in some ones pocket. You 2 are the only ones here that can show your ---es and still go on. Beginning to make some wonder if some thing is going on between you 2. I will leave you both alone and you can have private time I wont tell. ok.

Thoughts we all want to share our thoughts on matters that are important. We do pick and choose who we want around us. Is it right no because all live on this little planet and no matter where we turn there are people. Yes some we might not like some we do like but the ones that are not like still walk around us do they not. Judgment is with God Jehovah he has the right to Judge. Even though we have our own thoughts an things not every things is always black and white is it. Tim 7:07 am w