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Video #3 released today

Video #3 released today

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AnneC Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Aug 1, '15 7:01pm  
@AverageJoe:
The norm? No.
But more women have multiple abortions than you would think. The Guttmacher Institute in 2009 said as many as 45% of the abortions are performed on women who have had one or more before.
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tntrecycling Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 8 years ago   Aug 1, '15 10:49pm  
When the norm becomes killing unborn its not norm any more. Once a child is conceived or acknowledged that is a human life say as you please.
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AnneC Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 1:45pm  
Video #5 released today.
 
"A Planned Parenthood official discusses the procurement and cost of "intact" fetuses and altering abortion procedures to meet specific needs in a video released Tuesday by an anti-abortion group.
In the fifth of a series of videos from the Center for Medical Progress, a woman identified as Melissa Farrell, director of research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, discusses contributing to the organization's "diversification of the revenue stream" and the potential to "get creative" with conditions for procurement needs. The video was reportedly filmed in April at a Planned Parenthood facility in Texas.
"Just depending on the patient's anatomy, how many weeks, where it's placed in the uterus ... we're going to potentially be able to have some that will be more or less intact and then some that will not be," she says.
 
"But it's something that we can look at exploring how we can make that happen so we have a higher chance," she adds.
 
"And we've had studies in which the company, or in the case of the investigator, has a specific need for a certain portion of the products of conception and we bake that into our contract, and our protocol, that we follow this. So we deviate from our standard in order to do that.
 
"If we alter our process and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, then we can make it part of the budget, that any dissections are this, and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this. I mean, it's all just a matter of line items," she says."
More here: thehill.com/policy/h ealthcare/250179-fif th-planned-parenthoo d-video-turns-t
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Rixblix Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 1:53pm  
And Planned Parenthood's response (from the same article Anne shared):
 
"The footage released today doesn’t show Planned Parenthood staff engaged in any wrongdoing or agreeing to violate any legal or medical standards," Planned Parenthood Executive Vice President Dawn Laguens said in a six-paragraph statement.
 
"Instead, the latest tape shows an extremely offensive intrusion and lack of respect for women, with footage of medical tissue in a lab. These extremists show a total lack of compassion and dignity for women’s most personal medical decisions," she added.
 
Laguens said the latest video "will be difficult for many people to see," adding that "[m]edical procedures and medical research are often difficult to watch."
 
Laguens alluded to graphic images in the video of a gloved hand with tweezers sifting through a dish of fetal parts and tissue.
 
"It is standard medical practice to review tissue to ensure the health and safety of patients, and this tissue was being examined and handled under the false pretense of a standard laboratory site visit for people purportedly conducting qualified medical research," she said.
 
As discussed before, there's nothing illegal happening; consent for tissue donation is granted and the process for honoring that donation begins.
 
I wouldn't wish a chronic medical condition on anyone. I have to wonder what would happen if the anti-choice zealots were diagnosed (or had a loved one diagnosed) with a disease for which the treatment was developed through the use of donated tissue procured via Planned Parenthood. Would they refuse to use the treatment?
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AnneC Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 2:08pm  
Nothing illegal?
The law specifically prohibits a change in procedure if a woman consents to "donating" her aborted fetus. This latest video captures the PP official agreeing to alter the procedure on these women to "produce an intact cadaver", especially in abortions done in the second trimester. The body parts shown in this video were from an abortion done that day; the fetus was at 20 weeks+.
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JnJ Active Indicator LED Icon 17
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 7:00pm  
You saw the little leg, the arm....
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JnJ Active Indicator LED Icon 17
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 7:00pm  
or should I say a clump of cells in the shape of a leg, and arm..
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~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 9:14pm  
The percentage of post 20 week procedures is pretty slim. 95% are done before 12 weeks.
 
Most 20+ week procedures are those done because of serious problems with the pregnancy and are the ones most likely to be targeted for research.
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AnneC Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 9:24pm  
@joepyeweed:
Did you watch the video?
The interviewers asked to see the "oldest" fetus aborted that day. The doctors discussed this among themselves, then one mentioned the 20 week old "twin". That "fresh" cadaver (their words) was then shown to the interviewers, and is in the video. There was no indication that anything was medically wrong with the fetus.
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Rixblix Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 9:38pm  
It's no one's business if there was "anything wrong" with the fetus.
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AnneC Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 9:58pm  
@Rixblix:
I was responding to joepyeweed's comment. That clearly wasn't the case in this video.
By the way, did YOU watch the video?
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Rixblix Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 10:15pm  
No. I didn't watch the video. But i HAVE spent time working on a NICU. I saw teeny tiny babies daily. I've held a micro-preemie while his heart stopped beating. I've held the hands of parents as their preemies died from illness and congenital disease. I've seen miracles that were a direct result of research and technology that wouldn't be possible with out the kindness of strangers through tissue donation.
 
So, no I didn't watch the video.
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AnneC Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 10:22pm  
I hope those babies you saw were treated with respect...before and after their deaths.
That is NOT the case in this video.
I don't understand how you can comment on what was in the video if you haven't seen it.
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Rixblix Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 10:34pm  
You don't really KNOW how the donor handled the donation. It was a twin? At 20 weeks? What if the mother had to terminate one to save the other? Maybe she had hand prints taken or spent time holding the infant.
 
That's the trouble, we just can't possibly know anything other than consent was given. The tissues enter the lab and trained people put aside their personal discomfort knowing they're honoring the donation by using it to advance science.
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Rixblix Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 8 years ago   Aug 4, '15 10:47pm  
I regret commenting... Got sucked in again. Sorry.
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