@cjsummers : Nope, it was priced under market value to begin with and we just barely avoided a bidding war with other sellers wanting it too.

@Mahkno : Stop buying relatively obscure import vehicles and you won't have this problem. They have no incentive to lower the price

@Tazewell : I'm going to agree (that may be a first) but with a slight dealership slant. I've been using the Cars.com search engine since 2003 for my last six cars. One was a private sale and the other 5 were 2 year old, off-lease cars right just under the 20,000 mile mark from dealerships. I target getting them with at least 12mo/12,000 left on the balance of the 3-36 factory warranty.With Cars.com you can limit your radius search to get hits within a few hour drive and most have a free Carfax download. Their search engine allows you to refine it down to paint color, trim package, etc. This being said, our last two cars were still local buys from Mike Murphy Ford in Morton. We initially had good luck with University Ford in the early 90s, but haven't been that impressed since (they're Green now). My last true new car was in fall of 1995; ordered an F-250 with the next to the last year of 300ci inline 6 cylinder. 212,000 miles later and I still have it chugging along. I can thank Dave Gill Ford / Gill Trucks for what were the best truck mechanics in my experience. Too bad Ford spun off the heavy truck division to Sterling.I think anytime you walk in to buy something off the lot you open yourself up to the dealer digging in on price. My gosh, with today's internet it is all right there. Remember having to buy a Edmunds / Bluebook and asking the bank what they showed on the Wholesale / Blackbook. I will offer that the advertised price on a used car on Cars.com does seem to be it. You might get floor mats, or some minor add-on included but that has been pretty much it for working them down. That being said, you've already seen the spread of similar cars in the region, so you pretty much know the price.

@mypeez : that's why the place I went to has a zero-haggle policy... cars.com is where I did a lot of looking and checked out reviews, etc,, 3 yo with 27k miles on it.

GMC OR Chevy is the best way to go.

@skutfarcus : that was Neil norton Cadillac

Buying a car takes to long ! And the deal ship wants you to purchase all this other carp you dont need like 15,000 package for oil changes ! You dont need it ! Id like to buy a used pickup truck but the prices are REDICULIOUS , one dealer had a New truck cheaper than a 2011 with 180,000 miles on it ? When a used truck is more expensive than new THERES a problem ... im in no hurry and sooner or later ill find what I want at a price im willing to pay ...

@Mac57 : Neil Norton was "Somethin' good is gonna happen to you"

Don't buy new or lease and YOU SAVE $$$$$$$$. In my opinion when you lease YOU LOSE !

@Mac57 : When I bought out of state, the sale took less than half the time of the purchase of my husband's car locally. They knew adding all that extra stuff was pointless so we zipped right through the paperwork and left! Of course I had to go to the DMV to file my own sales tax paperwork so that was a hassle.

@skutfarcus :

@skutfarcus : Neil Norton ended the commercial and bring in your wife and we'll dicker

@Mac57 : Now your showing your age.

@tntrecycling : Why not put a little a side for repairs yourself instead paying someone else tp Do is for you ,,,, after my car was paid off ,i kept putting the money in the bank for repairs and replacing

@Mac57 : I was a body man for 25 years I work on most of my vehicles. There are things that I just cant do now days and really don't want to. I barter with a friend who works on my vehicles. Minor repairs I do major he takes care of for me. Love trading and swapping. Wish I could open a place call Barter town where all you can do is swap no cash allowed.