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by: AnneC Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Aug 1, '15 3:32pm  
Biden to challenge Hillary?
 
Vice President Joe Biden, inspired in part by his late son, has been holding meetings at his Washington home to discuss challenging Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination, the New York Times reported on Saturday.
 
Biden has said publicly he would make a decision at the end of the summer but the Times said the vice president and his associates were actively exploring getting in the race.
 
The Times, citing several people who have spoken with him and his advisers, said the Biden camp was contacting Democratic leaders and donors who have not firmly committed to Clinton, the clear leader among the five Democrats who have entered the race, or might be concerned about her prospects.
 
Times columnist Maureen Dowd also said Biden, 72, has been "having meetings at his Washington residence to explore the idea of taking on Hillary in Iowa and New Hampshire."
 
The paper said Steve Ricchetti, Biden's chief of staff, began talking to supporters in the months before Beau Biden died in May at age 46.
 
Dowd cited a conversation in which Beau Biden, a former attorney general of Delaware who was dying of brain cancer at the time, tried to get his father to promise he would run. The vice president's younger son, Hunter, also encouraged him, Dowd wrote.
 
"He was so close to Beau and it was so heartbreaking that, frankly, I thought initially he wouldn’t have the heart,” Boston attorney Michael Thornton, a Biden supporter, told the Times. "But I’ve had indications that maybe he does want to - and 'that’s what Beau would have wanted me to do.'"
 
The Wall Street Journal reported last month that John Cooper, a fundraiser for Barack Obama's successful presidential runs, has joined the Draft Biden 2016 Super PAC to persuade Biden, who sought the Democratic nomination in 1988 and 2008, to try again.
 
Dowd, who has often been critical of Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, said a campaign by Biden might be complicated for him because he has a good relationship with Hillary Clinton and respects the Democratic Party's desire to put a woman in the White House.
 
The White House had no immediate comment on Biden's plans and the Times quoted a spokeswoman for Biden as saying: "As the Biden family continues to go through this difficult time, the vice president is focused on his family and immersed in his work."
www.reuters.com/arti cle/2015/08/01/us-us a-election-biden-idU SKCN0Q63C920150
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tntrecycling Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 8 years ago   Aug 1, '15 3:49pm  
Hillary has to many issues to win. No matter how it comes out she wont make president.
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AverageJoe Active Indicator LED Icon 12
~ 8 years ago   Aug 1, '15 4:20pm  
I have to say, I was a bit surprised when I heard Jon Keller speak so positively about a politician, especially a Dem.
 
boston.cbslocal.com/ 2015/06/30/keller-la rge-joe-biden-for-pr esident-why-not
 
when I heard this on the radio, it stuck with me.
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tntrecycling Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 8 years ago   Aug 1, '15 10:55pm  
Top Clinton aide accused of receiving overpayments at State Dept.
I find this funny how can this happen over paid. ...............................
State Department investigators concluded this year that Huma Abedin, one of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s closest aides, was overpaid by nearly $10,000 because of violations of rules governing vacation and sick leave during her tenure as an official in the department.
 
The finding — which Abedin has formally contested — emerged publicly Friday after Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) sent letters to Secretary of State John F. Kerry and others seeking more information about an investigation into possible “criminal” conduct by Abedin concerning her pay.
 
The letters also sought the status of an inquiry into whether Abedin had violated conflict-of-interest laws related to her special employment situation, which allowed her to work simultaneously for the State Department, the Clinton Foundation and a private firm with close ties to the Clintons.
 
The finding that Abedin, a longtime Clinton confidante who now serves as vice chairwoman of her presidential campaign, had improperly collected taxpayer money could prove damaging to Clinton’s candidacy, as Republicans charge that government rules were routinely bent to benefit Clinton and her aides.
 
At the same time, the letters, which for the first time have publicized an internal pay dispute that has been simmering for months, could bolster Democratic claims that congressional Republicans are using their oversight role to hurt Clinton politically.
 
Grassley indicates in the letters, which were provided to The Washington Post, that he is describing information from an inquiry by the State Department’s Office of Inspector General. A spokesman for Grassley said the senator’s office has not independently confirmed the allegations.
 
In letters sent Thursday to Abedin, Kerry and the Office of Inspector General, Grassley wrote that staff of the inspector general had found “at least a reasonable suspicion of a violation” of the law concerning the “theft of public money through time and attendance fraud” as well as “conflicts of interest connected to her overlapping employment.”
 
Grassley also raised the possibility that efforts to investigate Abedin’s actions were thwarted because many of her exchanges were sent through Clinton’s private e-mail server.
 
According to Grassley’s description of the investigation, Abedin’s time sheets indicated that she never took vacation or sick leave during her four years at the State Department, from January 2009 to February 2013. But the investigation, the senator wrote, found evidence that Abedin did take time off, including a 10-day trip to Italy, and that she told colleagues in e-mails that she was out “on leave.”
 
A spokesman for Clinton’s campaign declined to comment. Attorneys for Abedin said she learned in May that the State Department’s inspector general had concluded that she improperly collected $9,857 for periods when she was on vacation or leave.
 
Abedin responded with a 12-page letter contesting the findings and formally requesting an administrative review of the investigation’s conclusion, a process that remains ongoing.
 
Her attorneys say the conclusion that Abedin was overpaid relied on a finding that she had done no work while on the Italy trip and in the weeks after she gave birth in December 2011. However, they wrote that the evidence uncovered by the inspector general made it clear that she had worked extensively during those times.
 
“Huma Abedin is widely known as one of the hardest-working people in all of Washington during the nearly two decades she was in public service,” said Karen Dunn, an attorney for Abedin. “The IG report found a multitude of instances when she was working even when she was on maternity leave, yet its central charge was that she owes back pay for work missed while on leave. It simply doesn’t add up.”
 
Abedin’s attorneys said the inquiry resulted in a finding only about the pay issue and not about any possible conflicts of interest posed by her work arrangement or issues related to the use of Clinton’s private e-mail server.
 
Doug Welty, a spokesman for the Office of Inspector General at the State Department, said he couldn’t comment on the existence of a probe into Abedin. A State Department spokesman also declined to comment.
 
Grassley also alleged that Clinton’s highly controversial private e-mail arrangement interfered with the investigation.
 
The committee “has learned that the OIG had reason to believe that e-mail evidence relevant to that inquiry was contained in e-mails Ms. Abedin sent and received from her account on Secretary Clinton’s non-government server, making them unavailable to the OIG through its normal statutory right of access to records,” Grassley wrote.
 
Since 2013, Grassley has been inquiring about Abedin’s “special government employee” status, which during her final six months at the State Department allowed her to take outside employment with the Clinton Foundation and Teneo, a firm led by longtime Bill Clinton aide Douglas Band.
 
Grassley’s letter to Kerry claimed that Abedin had exchanged 7,300 e-mails that “involved” Band but did not specify how many of those were direct correspondence between the two.
 
In one instance, Grassley wrote, Band allegedly e-mailed Abedin to request her help in landing a White House appointment for a friend who led a charity that later hired his firm and donated to the Clinton Foundation.
 
However, Grassley did not release the e-mail in question, nor did he allege any wrongdoing by Abedin. And the timeline of events does not clearly support an allegation of conflict of interest: The Band friend was named to a White House panel in 2010, before her charity hired Teneo and before Teneo hired Abedin.
 
Band did not respond to requests for comment. Dunn, Abedin’s attorney, said: “We are unaware of this e-mail and Senator Grassley has not shared it with us or the media. But every piece of this letter has issues with accuracy and we have no reason to believe this is an exception.”
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Seal Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 8 years ago   Aug 1, '15 11:37pm  
I would rather see Biden then Billary any day of the week. Biden sounds like an idiot, sometimes just like Bush did but I think he might just be a decent guy and actually have some ability that is lying dormant right now.
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billybob Active Indicator LED Icon 12
~ 8 years ago   Aug 2, '15 6:24am  
This story is ancient history. It all got totally sidetracked with his sons health issues and death. People are not really sure that it will happen as now there are grandchildren without a father. However,before he passed Beau Biden strongly encouraged his father to run for president.
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~ 8 years ago   Aug 2, '15 7:05am  
Their ALL lying and cheating in one way or another. Just a matter of WHEN they get caught. I think there should be an age limit to go with the minimum age. I can't see some guy in his 70's being able to handle all the pressure look at how much obama has aged since he took the job. If your old enoungh to collect SS you should not be president.
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Rixblix Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 8 years ago   Aug 2, '15 10:06am  
Hillary < Biden < BERNIE!
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Kevster Active Indicator LED Icon 7
~ 8 years ago   Aug 2, '15 10:14am  
The people are speaking, and they're saying they do not want any more career politicians.
Pantsuit'enstien is finished.
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AnneC Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Aug 2, '15 10:17am  
@Kevster:
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That's why I'm rooting for Dr. Ben Carson.
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tntrecycling Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 8 years ago   Aug 2, '15 10:22am  
I just read this morning there is more bad news for Hillary. Didn't have time to post it if its around again I will see what it is about.
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AverageJoe Active Indicator LED Icon 12
~ 8 years ago   Aug 2, '15 10:30am  
Pantsuit'enstein!! Fantastic!
 
Listening to Carson at this moment.
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bn13814 Active Indicator LED Icon 11
~ 8 years ago   Aug 2, '15 10:41am  
Hillary has to many issues to win. No matter how it comes out she wont make president.
 
@tntrecycling
 
So did her husband...and he got elected twice. Emoticon
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AnneC Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Aug 2, '15 11:19am  
@bn:
Yeah, but Hillary isn't as good of a liar as Bill.
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Seal Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 8 years ago   Aug 2, '15 11:23am  
@AnneC I wouldn't bet on that one
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tntrecycling Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 8 years ago   Aug 2, '15 11:32am  
Got to remember I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Its ok to have sex with others while your President.
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