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Well you are so inspirational to people that may be coming to www.Peoria.com looking for a church or something. I don't know why segregation wouldn't be the best solution right now.
( I mean, look how well this is working!)

You are SO inspirational, that you inspired me to change my pic to one of my favorite people, who in fact plays lead for a band called "Every knee shall bow" (Thanks)

Or you could simply stay here, and continue to NOT take any advice, and persecute us for our beliefs. yes, persecution is the correct word.
It's really sending a positive message, eh? You guys are a true inspiration.
I realize you DON'T want your own tab, and I realize why. You're not going to be able to stir controversy there. You'd be very lonely, and that's sad. Wait till you experience hell, cuz you're going to.
I feel sad for you guys, and I'll continue to pray. I just hope you don't DIE thinking the way you do, and worshiping the devil.
Cuz if you're NOT Worshiping God, you ARE in fact worshiping the devil.
I don't put down anybody.I tell people about Christ because I don't want them to experience death from sins. I do it because I care and love people. God gives everyone a choice.I cant change anyone, but only share with them the goodness of Christ. I'm not a push over.If they don't believe... that's fine.

The bible says that not everyone will be saved. He said they were fools. Psalm 14:1.... lil footnote for ya. The Hebrew words rendered fool in Psalms to denote one who is morally deficient. have fun &
Good Luck!

atheism is NOT the same thing as worshipping the devil. I can't speak for 666, perhaps he/she does. I don't know.

An intelligent parry is how we all grow in our faith and knowledge. Just because we don't agree with each others' beliefs doesn't mean we can't learn from them and become better people because of it. ( show me where that's happened to a non believer on this forum)

I would rather not splinter the "religious discussion" portion of the forums into "believers" and "non-believers". Separate-but-equal hasn't exactly worked well in this country in the past, and jumping into an echo chamber where we only hear what we want to hear is not how we grow our faith and knowledge about any topic.( I hate censorship and segregation as much as the next guy, but how's this working out for ya')

Well Joe, please tell me... if you're not Worshiping God, who are you worshiping? I mean really.

NOT worshipping. Really.

I'm certain you god fearing Christians would stay far, far away from our "hell place".

Ohh....wait:

http://www.peoria.com/message_board/view_message.php

You're showin your rear end again.
Who threw the first blow there? lol.
AND as an IT guy, you should know the difference between an atheist "Thread, and and atheist "tab". Maybe not.

I'm a little curious as to where I personally was persecuting you for being a believer. I don't believe I've ever said you were wrong for having faith in God, and I don't believe I've ever said you were wrong for being in here or for posting your beliefs on religion and matters of faith. We obviously don't have the same beliefs, but I don't think I'm "right" for my agnosticism and I certainly don't think you're "wrong" for believing. If it came off as criticism, I do apologize.

If your only advice is "repent and accept Christ or go to Hell," I do appreciate your advice, but I choose to pursue a different path to happiness and satisfying my spiritual needs, thanks.

The only positive message and inspiration I aspire to inspire is a message of tolerance, acceptance, understanding, and love. No two people in here have the same set of beliefs, which is why I enjoy reading and responding to posts in here. If I'm really off the rails by encouraging discussion (and sometimes yes, dissention) regarding each of our unique faiths and belief networks, then I do apologize. But it's not to figure out who's "right" or "wrong".

If the higher powers send me to Hell for trying to better understand, tolerate, accept, and love my fellow Man, so be it. My faith is such that, if the believers are right and there is a kind, loving, just God, He won't send me into the fiery pits of Hell just for that.

Your prayers are much appreciated, because I know that your faith and the faiths of your fellow believers put a high significance on the power of prayer. That you care enough about your fellow Man that you're willing to pray for essentially a total stranger does speak volumes to your charity and your faith.

However, "not worshipping God = worshipping Satan" seems a bit tenuous of a connection to make. That's like saying "not collecting stamps = collecting coins". I don't think something as rich and complex as faith, beliefs, and religion can be boiled down to a simple binary yes/no choice like that.

It's great that you aren't a pushover and that you aren't afraid to stand up for what you believe in. That's a very good thing, and the world needs more decisive people like that who are willing to take a stand. But you acknowledge that it's "fine" for us who don't believe... I don't think that necessarily prompts us non-believers to be relegated to our own dark and shadowy corner of the forums. Christ didn't lock himself in a room with the Apostles and banish the pagans. He went out and spread the good news to them and evangelized, but even He knew he wasn't going to sway everyone he talked to.

The full context of Psalm 14:1:

There are plenty of us non-believers who aren't corrupt, don't do "abominable works", and who do good deeds. Once again, it's not a binary decision: there are plenty of us out there who are good people, but we just happen to either not believe in God or do not know whether or not God exists. Sure, we might not get into Heaven, but that doesn't mean that we aren't good people here on Earth.

Same to you, my friend. Best of luck as your spiritual journey continues forward.

You know, Sterling, I enjoy meaningful conversations as well where ideas are freely exchanged but the Religious forum is anything but that. I have seen you and others come over specifically to verbally attack TnT and the rest of us. We have been told we are brainwashed and delusional for believing and living the life we chose. I have seen you specifically write posts meant to incite the ongoing conversation. If you have questions great-- ask away. Everyone here knows I will gladly answer them all but not when you get condescending because of what I believe.

If you really want to have a great exchange of ideas then maybe you should lead by example.

As for the rest of you, good luck to you all. The level of discourse here has been reduced to something truly shameful and completely disgraceful and I no longer want to be a part of it. I'll let all you 4th graders take over now.

Sheesh.

+1. Later!

"grow a pair" "brain cells"



christian talk

If a person doesn't believe in God, they certainly don't believe in the devil either

exactly, joepye. Believing in a "supernatural being" is a prerequisite for worshipping the supernatural being.

Sterling makes some excellent points, which should be taken into consideration.

Froggy, I hate to see you leave the conversation. I value your input and you have been a wonderful example of what a Christian should be (my opinion). Your faith is steadfast and you explain your position with respect. But, I totally understand not wanting to hear all the crap either.

I was also working two jobs at the time and when I WAS home, I was here alone to take care of my kids....

I'm truly sorry that I didn't get that done for you and believe me, I do feel guilty about it

Pretty sure that's in the bible somewhere...two wrongs make a right.