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Re: What has God done for you?
By: HipKat
May 28, 2012 - 06:42 pm
AverageJoe writes:
http://av1611.com/kjbp/charts.html

One of the fundamental deceptions being promoted by modern Bible publishers is that the new Bibles are merely in different styles of writing; that they are simply easier to read than the KJV; that nothing is being removed or changed in God's word.

There are many problems with these claims. Here we will focus on the claim that "all versions really say the same thing."

Why is this important? It is simple: if two books say different things, or if two books say inherently contradictory things, or if of two books one says more than the other, they cannot both be God's word. This is simple, basic logic. To say otherwise is to accuse the Holy Spirit of doublespeak.

There are many, many reasons for the differences we are about to examine. One of the primary reasons for these differences is that the underlying original-language text of the Bible that was used for 1800 years has been replaced by modern scholarship with a text that was assembled in the nineteenth century. There are several articles on this website describing this fact and these competing texts (their sources, history, and content), and you are encouraged to read them.

But the purpose of these comparisons is mainly to show you that anyone telling you there is no substantive difference between the KJV and modern Bibles is either ignorant or intentionally deceiving you. You simply cannot see the differences and honestly say they do not exist!


ignorant or intentionally deceiving?



Thanks to the vast number of blogs where people write their own personal opinions, I can pretty much find anything to support or disagree with anything that anyone has to say.

JnJ Does it in the Politics forum every day



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Re: What has God done for you?
By: HipKat
May 28, 2012 - 06:44 pm
That is something that was completely re-written BY the JW in order to further their own beliefs and agenda. At least Catholics had the sense to write their own book, the Catechism.


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Re: What has God done for you?
By: Seal
May 28, 2012 - 06:50 pm
HipKat writes:
That is something that was completely re-written BY the JW in order to further their own beliefs and agenda. At least Catholics had the sense to write their own book, the Catechism.



That is exactly what ALL religions do. If the verse doesn't fit change it so it does.


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Re: What has God done for you?
By: HipKat
May 28, 2012 - 07:13 pm
Not true. Some, yes, OK. The JW's definitely did.


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Re: What has God done for you?
May 28, 2012 - 07:57 pm
clearly, many people DON'T think that there is only ONE Bible.

but, I can't convince the ignorant, so it's not worth more of my time.

but, back to the point that the various religions all have their own books and think theirs is THE right book. Froggy said she's fine with that...

as long as it says that Jesus is the way to Heaven.

Not all books say Jesus is the way to Heaven. Torah, Quran....


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Re: What has God done for you?
By: HipKat
May 28, 2012 - 09:33 pm
I'll say this s-l-o-w-l-y so you can understand.
THIS-conversation-is-about-the-Bible.

N-o-t
t-h-e
T-o-r-a-h
o-r
t-h-e
Q-u-r-a-n
e-t-c......


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Re: What has God done for you?
May 28, 2012 - 09:40 pm
Do you two need to hug it out?


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Re: What has God done for you?
By: HipKat
May 28, 2012 - 10:21 pm
Nah, but maybe there's a nice Massachusetts forum she can be a nuisance on....


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Re: What has God done for you?
May 28, 2012 - 11:02 pm
Show me where we changed the Bible for our beleives. Were talking about the Bible right.


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Re: What has God done for you?
By: HipKat
May 29, 2012 - 05:56 am
Show me where it says God settled his Kingdom on Earth in 1914 in The Bible


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Re: What has God done for you?
By: themrs916
May 29, 2012 - 06:05 am
tntrecycling writes:
Show me where we changed the Bible for our beleives. Were talking about the Bible right.



Jesus died on stake, not a cross.


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Re: What has God done for you?
By: themrs916
May 29, 2012 - 06:09 am
themrs916 writes:
tntrecycling writes:
Show me where we changed the Bible for our beleives. Were talking about the Bible right.



Jesus died on stake, not a cross.



edit-
and as long as you are happy tnt, your Jesus died on a stake.


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Re: What has God done for you?
By: Seal
May 29, 2012 - 06:26 am
tntrecycling writes:
Show me where we changed the Bible for our beleives. Were talking about the Bible right.



That list wouldn't be able to be posted on this forum, far to long.

I guess we could start with Jesus didn't physically rise from the dead, or we could go back to your religion not believing the Holy Trinity exists.

Then there's your belief that Jesus isn't a deity and shouldn't be worshiped at all.

Next we could discuss the following dates: January 15, 1892 your Watchtower claims Armageddon began in 1874 and will end in 1814 (seems odd since WWI began in 1814). 1925 remember your religion claims Abraham, Jacob, Isaac and other prophets would return that year. December 1941, the Watchtower, claims England and the US would become Dictatorships and God would rule when the Nazi's were defeated. Matthew 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

I think I should end this little list with the fact that your religion doesn't believe in Hell and NO eternal punishment for the wicked. Hell to your religion is the grave. We could also throw in your belief that Heaven will only allow 144000 in, and that number is already full and met, so everybody else just gets to hang out here on Earth with all those people in their graves, AKA Hell, so in reality if you aren't the 144000 then you are going to Hell.


Tnt,

I had to go back and edit my response and add these examples so that some people wouldn't say, lets see some facts well here they are.



How about we discuss your beliefs that Hell doesn't exist?



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Re: What has God done for you?
May 29, 2012 - 06:31 am
This is like the start of a bad joke ( so a Christian, A JW and an Agnostic are picking on each other). This would be a great in person debate to see.


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Re: What has God done for you?
By: Seal
May 29, 2012 - 06:54 am
meanjarhead writes:
This is like the start of a bad joke ( so a Christian, A JW and an Agnostic are picking on each other). This would be a great in person debate to see.



Throw in a deist and it could get even more interesting.


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