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Re: Trump For
By: leslie110
May 11, 2011 - 02:43 pm
JnJ writes:
Hey my google searches just got slower - Les must be burning up their engines right now...



I could google and find thousands of references to Republicans claiming to be the party of family values but it woulnd't matter. I guess you aren't as informed as I thought you were to not even be aware of their claim.


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Re: Trump For
By: rivermen1
May 11, 2011 - 02:44 pm
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ST. PAUL, Minn. — Dan Quayle struck a nerve in 1992 when he went after the TV series "Murphy Brown" by saying its depiction of a single mother was irresponsible and set a bad example for America. The Republican vice president said the fictional character was "mocking the importance of fathers by bearing a child alone and calling it just another `lifestyle choice.'"

The ensuing brouhaha helped Republicans sharpen a "family values" agenda that appealed to the Christian right and carried the party through a half-dozen congressional elections. Contrast that with the GOP reaction to news that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's unmarried 17-year-old daughter was five months pregnant.



http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Sep03/0,4670,CVNMea



Dan Quayle- really- 1992- 20 years ago something a vice presidents did- shall I start mentioning the things that Biden has done and said?


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Re: Trump For
By: rivermen1
May 11, 2011 - 02:45 pm
Obama and Bush were probably the two best family men we have had in office in a long time.


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Re: Trump For
By: leslie110
May 11, 2011 - 02:46 pm
You jacka$$...I wasn't critisizing what he said...just proving my earlier claim.


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Re: Trump For
By: rivermen1
May 11, 2011 - 02:48 pm
leslie110 writes:
You jack@ass...I wasn't critisizing what he said...just proving my earlier claim.



What trying to prove that if your teenage daughter gets pregant you have no family values- or was it that if Palin had true family values she would of made her daughter get an abortion?


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Re: Trump For
By: leslie110
May 11, 2011 - 02:50 pm
rivermen1 writes:
leslie110 writes:
You jack@ass...I wasn't critisizing what he said...just proving my earlier claim.



What trying to prove that if your teenage daughter gets pregant you have no family values- or was it that if Palin had true family values she would of made her daughter get an abortion?



If you want to know what my earlier claim was then go back and read my posts. I am not going to do a Cliff notes version for you.


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Re: Trump For
By: JnJ
May 11, 2011 - 02:53 pm
Leslie, I have seen a significant effort on the part of others, like yourself, to paint the Republican Party as the Party of Family Values, but as I suspected, you could produce little evidence that the Republican Party itself intends to or even wants to be painted as such. Nobody is entitled to ownership of "family values". It is more of an ideal than a state of being and, the phrase is highly subjective.

To get to my point - I am resentful of you pinning a loose, non-specific term on Republicans such as "Family Values" in an effort to hold them to a higher standard of behavior than you would anybody else, not to mention the claims of "hypocrisy" which inevitably follow.


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Re: Trump For
By: rivermen1
May 11, 2011 - 02:53 pm
leslie110 writes:
rivermen1 writes:
leslie110 writes:
You jack@ass...I wasn't critisizing what he said...just proving my earlier claim.



What trying to prove that if your teenage daughter gets pregant you have no family values- or was it that if Palin had true family values she would of made her daughter get an abortion?



If you want to know what my earlier claim was then go back and read my posts. I am not going to do a Cliff notes version for you.



I read it and what you are trying to get over on me is that since Sarah Palin has a daughter that was pregnant -= she has no family values. That is exactly what that little article is saying. Real family values is her not having an abortion because the child would be a burden on her- that is real family values.


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Re: Trump For
By: JnJ
May 11, 2011 - 02:54 pm
And what does Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown have to do with this? That is lame.


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Re: Trump For
By: Chef Kevin
May 11, 2011 - 02:57 pm
What's Ross Perot up to these days?


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Re: Trump For
By: leslie110
May 11, 2011 - 02:59 pm
JnJ writes:
And what does Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown have to do with this? That is lame.



I didn't know that when I offered examples I would have to explain them too.


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Re: Trump For
By: leslie110
May 11, 2011 - 03:03 pm
http://www.johntracy.me/FFV/index.html

Do you ever feel like you live on a political and moral island? ...like you are the only one in the world that thinks the way that you do and believes passionately in Faith and Family Values? ...like you are all alone? We have good news for you! You are not the only one who feels that way! Welcome to the Faith and Family Values Republican Club of Pasco County Florida! There are a lot of us already here. We hope you will feel at home and that the "island" we have built will be an oasis for you. We will give you the opportunity for your voice to be heard as we take a stand together on issues related to our Faith and our Family Values!

Our mission is to promote and protect Judeo-Christian family values and principles by educating, assisting, and uniting the Republican Party of Pasco County to engage our community in the issues of the day.









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Re: Trump For
By: leslie110
May 11, 2011 - 03:05 pm
I think I would have a better time debating politics with Abby...and I think she is more informed too.


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Re: Trump For
By: Chef Kevin
May 11, 2011 - 03:10 pm
I think I should run for President on the "American Beer Drinkers" party ticket.


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Re: Trump For
By: leslie110
May 11, 2011 - 03:13 pm
Chef Kevin writes:
I think I should run for President on the "American Beer Drinkers" party ticket.



Will Sam Adams be your VP?


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