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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
Aug 7, 2012 - 07:01 am
So, if I put these and other things I created in a cookbook with a copyright, who says someone can't switch up a few ingredients, modify a cooking method and plate it differently and call it their own? If I look through all my cookbooks, I bet I can find 20 recipes for cream of potato soup which are all copyrighted.




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They sure can... that's why we have coke and pepsi and generic cola's...

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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
By: Pock
Aug 7, 2012 - 08:59 am
inventions should be protected. Lets not confuse the two. It is certainly not a popular idea, but the copyrights are total BS, but they protect an industry so the law isn't changing.

As for compensation, again just for those that might just only read the few posts where it was insinuated people should work for nothing or cheaply, no one said that.


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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
Aug 7, 2012 - 09:38 am
I dabble in photography. Wildlife photography birds, butterfiles, etc. Sometimes people who know me, who have seen my pictures, will ask me to shoot their senior portrait or their wedding. I do not have the proper equipment, or experience, or training to take those types of pictures. I always feel awkward when I have to explain that they really don't want me to take thier picture. The next time someone asks for their senior portrait, I will refer them to Pock. lol.


There is a difference between a snapshot and photograph. Its about experience and knowledge and practice.


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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
By: Pock
Aug 7, 2012 - 09:47 am
The next time someone asks for their senior portrait, I will refer them to Pock. lol.
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@joepyeweed:
Don't you dare. I'm not a people person. I'd be the most boring photographer in existence.




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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
Aug 7, 2012 - 06:14 pm
I dabble in photography. Wildlife photography birds, butterfiles, etc. Sometimes people who know me, who have seen my pictures, will ask me to shoot their senior portrait or their wedding. I do not have the proper equipment, or experience, or training to take those types of pictures. I always feel awkward when I have to explain that they really don't want me to take thier picture. The next time someone asks for their senior portrait, I will refer them to Pock. lol..




@joepyeweed:

I like action, sports, wildlife & scenic photos... definitely don't like doing portrait work of any kind. However, I have done senior photos for my 2 nieces, engagement photos for 1 of them and will be doing her wedding photos at the end of September. Then, at some point, I'll be doing wedding photos for my other niece when they decide on a date... I don't like doing them, but they really can't afford to hire someone. I just hope I do a better job for me than my wife's relatives that did our wedding (for free). Those photos sucked horribly.....

OH, I've also done 2 wedding for my sister in law... the first I was way new into photography and didn't know anything, but she didn't care. The 2nd wedding was a few years later. I had learned some, but not a lot. The only good thing about doing that stuff is I can use that as a reason to be more gear that would help me pull off the task. Usually the wife agrees and I get almost what I want.

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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
By: froggy
Aug 7, 2012 - 08:44 pm
Lol Mizzou! So that's how you get new gear.

I have done one wedding on my own and was second shooter for another. I prefer neither. Weddings are highly stressful and make for some long days during and after the event. Plus, the best lens needed for those costs $1600. No thanks.


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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
Aug 7, 2012 - 09:48 pm
Lol Mizzou! So that's how you get new gear.




@froggy:

I have no problem buying gear if I have definite use for it... I don't like buying gear that I'm not sure how I would use it or how it would benefit me. I've got a lens (24-70 f/2.8L) now that I've debated selling several times for that very reason.

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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
By: froggy
Aug 8, 2012 - 02:05 pm
I have that lens and love it but weighs around 5 lbs. Together with my camera, it really wears my shoulder out. It's also fast being replaced by my 85 f/1.8 and my 50 f/1.4. The cheapie 18-55 kicks butt, too, so if I'm not taking "pro" pics I don't bother with the honker. These 3 combined weigh less than that one.


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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
Aug 8, 2012 - 02:10 pm
Don't you use nikon?

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photographers rip off or not ?
Aug 8, 2012 - 03:23 pm
Canon user here.... if I were going to do a wedding I would probably rent some equipment...rather than buy.


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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
Aug 8, 2012 - 03:42 pm
I have lens envy...


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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
Aug 8, 2012 - 03:56 pm
When I know I'll be doing multiple for family, long term better off buying. Plus, I would use to do our own family photos.

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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
Aug 8, 2012 - 04:15 pm
When I know I'll be doing multiple for family, long term better off buying. Plus, I would use to do our own family photos.




@mizzouman_2000:

No doubt. And if you have a good excuse to buy something new... go for it. My next wish list item is a carbon fiber tripod.


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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
By: froggy
Aug 8, 2012 - 04:19 pm
Yep, I shoot Nikon but they have the same lenses and they're pretty much the same size/weight.

Oh I dont mind renting but if I was going to continually shoot weddings I'd buy the 70-200 f/2.8 right off the bat. It would be a good investment but you'd have to shoot enough to justify the cost. There's no way in heck I can justify it right now, especially since I don't ever want to get into weddings. My goal is commercial photography and most of the stuff I've done to date doesn't require that lens. I'm just not comfortable shooting anything higher than 85mm.


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Re: photographers rip off or not ?
Aug 8, 2012 - 05:59 pm
Yep, I shoot Nikon but they have the same lenses and they're pretty much the same size/weight.

Oh I dont mind renting but if I was going to continually shoot weddings I'd buy the 70-200 f/2.8 right off the bat. It would be a good investment but you'd have to shoot enough to justify the cost. There's no way in heck I can justify it right now, especially since I don't ever want to get into weddings. My goal is commercial photography and most of the stuff I've done to date doesn't require that lens. I'm just not comfortable shooting anything higher than 85mm.




@froggy:

It is a pretty hefty lens. I wish the lens hood of my 24-70 fit my 70-200... they're nearly identical and would make it one less lens hood to carry around.

Lensrentals.com is a great place to rent from. I've had great experiences with them.

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