photographers rip off or not ? on the Peoria.com Forums - Page 3

It is just an opinion.. I could be wrong.

I admire your confidence, pock. I know I couldn't, with my current equipment and ability, replicate the picture I posted.

@Pock:
That's the thing about opinions, they are never wrong.

@Pock:

For a standard camera, sure, it's point and shoot. For a more complex camera, you can manually adjust many settings: ISO, arpeture, shutter speed, (which is like an artist wielding a brush), it's like playing an instrument. If you get the settings just right, you get something beautiful, sharp, vivid, etc... add on top of that digital editing.

As far as it not being theres, I completely agree but for different reasons.

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I've worked with dozens of professional photographers and videographers and it's standard practice for them to charge extra for everything. I learned the hard way years ago to make sure I include everything in the upfront proposal request.

Well, maybe I don't understand how photographers are paid.

If I were to base my knowledge off of this conversation, I would assume that for an event, one invites a photographer to an event (wedding, etc) and they show up and take photos and their pay is based on how many photos they shot which are ordered. In that case then yes, I can see why the photographer would charge $50 for the CD. Otherwise a shrewd person would say "just give me the CD" and print them all off at Walgreens, and the photographer is paid nothing for his troubles.

However, I think that's not the case -- I'm fairly sure that a professional photographer charges an hourly or "for the event" fee (much like a studio does a "sitting fee" just in case you don't end up ordering any of the photos.)

@Pock:

Ya, if the professional photog sets up the lighting, angle, aperture, shutter speed, focus etc you can shoot the same shot. Put a paintbrush in my hand and have an artist grab my hand and move it across the canvas, I can paint the same thing he does!

If someone can translate the original question into English for me, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

@AV8R:

that is not what i said by far . i simply asked if is this is a rip off or do all charge this amount ? so please get it right . ive never seen 1 that asks that amount for a xtra CD befor .

@AV8R:
My 3year old could probably do that. I just don't see how something not original can be copyrighted.

If I came fresh-out of photography school, and "knew" of the settings to use on a certain camera, I could copyright it? It isn't unique, it isn't original. It is a setting on a device. A purely mechanical process.

Certainly people who make their living on photography won't agree with me, and if i was a photographer I probably wouldn't agree with me.

A good friend of mine has a bachelors degree in photography, so I've had this conversation in lengths with him.

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Hey Pock. If your theory is correct, how could I copyright a song that is written in the musical notes of a,b,c,d,e,f,& G?

They're all the same in everyone's ears right? yep.
BUT arranged differently, and built with chords from these same notes, Millions of songs are copyrighted.

The English language only has 26 letters. How many bodies of work from those 26 letters are copyrighted?

So a barn is a barn . I take a photo of it. I can get it copyrighted. You take a photo of it, you can too.
Copy RIGHT.

Photography is art.

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@Pock:

Your ignorance of this subject is painfully obvious. You ought to quit before you make more of an ass of yourself, although I know you won't.

@diezelmom303:

To answer your question.. No, not all photographers charge the prices you've quoted. Some charge way more and some probably charge less..or not at all for the cd. I will always go with someone I know and trust, who knows how to work their camera(s) to take the best photos given all the outside elements..the weather..the lighting..screaming children..clothing colors..and that list could be endless depending on the customer who wants the perfect photo.

Sure, Pock can easily set up shop next to any photographer, but if you do your research, you get what you pay for. I agree that art is subjective, but technique is not. And anyone that can pick apart a photo based on technique will know exactly what their time is worth and charge appropriately for it because it isn't just money in their pocket but something they have worked for and take pride in having their name on. And in doing so, their name will precede them in their line of work and amongst their peers.

my question was and is still is 50$ too much to pay for a xtra cd from a faux =fake photographer ? do all even the pros who are lic and bonded and insured with their city charge the same for it ?

i never said i wanted anything for free and it should be 50 cents . some one else asked if ment they chrged 50 cents . and it clearly is on her fb page listed at 50$ dollars .

this wasnt ment to be a huge argument or belil me .

@Pock:

Please tell me your argument isn't based on a friend with a Bachelor's degree.