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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: Seal
Aug 25, 2011 - 12:06 pm
joepyeweed writes:
Leslie just gave an example of that not being true.



Notice where I said: "Speaking from experience"?


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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: anonymous
Aug 25, 2011 - 01:21 pm
Maybe your attitude towards the teachers with whom you've interacted has something to do with the experiences you've had with them.

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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
Aug 25, 2011 - 01:49 pm
You cannot generalize your experience with one or two teachers to be true for every teacher.

Leslie doesn't think that every teacher is awesome, just because her daughter's teacher is awesome.


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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: Seal
Aug 25, 2011 - 04:12 pm
joepyeweed writes:
You cannot generalize your experience with one or two teachers to be true for every teacher.

Leslie doesn't think that every teacher is awesome, just because her daughter's teacher is awesome.



One or two? LOL, you are completely off base there.

If my statement is generalized to you, then clearly Leslie's is generalized.



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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
Aug 25, 2011 - 07:26 pm
I will acknowledge that one of the biggest problems that our school systems face is weeding out the bad teachers and retaining the good ones.

If we keep cutting teacher pay and benefits, then it will be even harder to retain the good ones and the only one's left are people who couldn't get a job elsewhere (most likely being the bad teachers).


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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: anonymous
Aug 25, 2011 - 07:26 pm
Some parents are very thoughtful, understanding and willing to work with teachers. Unfortunately, others are overly critical, constantly complaining and unwilling to consider their role in their child's struggles in school.

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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
Aug 25, 2011 - 08:01 pm
anonymous writes:
Some parents are very thoughtful, understanding and willing to work with teachers. Unfortunately, others are overly critical, constantly complaining and unwilling to consider their role in their child's struggles in school.


Agreed, and I have to say, most of my children's teachers have been awesome, and even the ones who weren't so hot, if you approach then respectfully, they respond accordingly.


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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: leslie110
Aug 29, 2011 - 09:38 am
Just wanted to share that I got an email from Abby's teacher on Saturday morning...so she is even working on weekends.


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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: JnJ
Aug 29, 2011 - 02:11 pm
I hope the teachers stuck to their guns!


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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: JeepPilot   *Peoria.com Moderator
Aug 29, 2011 - 02:58 pm
JnJ writes:
I hope the teachers stuck to their guns!



I hope this statement doesn't spark a discussion on D150!


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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: Seal
Aug 29, 2011 - 10:13 pm
JnJ writes:
I hope the teachers stuck to their guns!



I hope they do too, get fired and get to stand in unemployment lines....Maybe in their next job, if they get one, they can actually do what is best for the kids.


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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: leslie110
Aug 29, 2011 - 10:14 pm
Seal writes:
JnJ writes:
I hope the teachers stuck to their guns!



I hope they do too, get fired and get to stand in unemployment lines....Maybe in their next job, if they get one, they can actually do what is best for the kids.



According to you no teacher does what is best for the kids.


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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: Seal
Aug 29, 2011 - 10:17 pm
leslie110 writes:
Seal writes:
JnJ writes:
I hope the teachers stuck to their guns!



I hope they do too, get fired and get to stand in unemployment lines....Maybe in their next job, if they get one, they can actually do what is best for the kids.



According to you no teacher does what is best for the kids.



Where exactly did I say NO? I am sure there are some that are good teachers out there, they are just few and far between. If you are going to quote me, please don't misquote me. Use "facts" please, like you like to tell other people..


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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: leslie110
Aug 29, 2011 - 10:30 pm
I'm sorry...I was wrong. It wasn't all it was most...so sorry I was so far off base.

Teachers underpaid? That is a joke.

They work at most 7 months a year, every weekend off, home by 5pm every day unless that choose to live further away. Every holiday off, including those that are made up. Lets not forget their benefits, including MORE paid days off.

Most of the teachers I have had to deal with since my kids started school are some of the laziest people I have ever met. They do NO real teaching, kids grade their own papers. Open book, open note tests. Tests, printed directly from text books.

Toughest part of their day is listening to little Johnny mouth off, which they cure by removing him form class.



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Re: Illini Bluffs teacher strike
By: billybob
Aug 29, 2011 - 11:09 pm
The USA will continue to lose the way in eduation, and every other way, so long as teachers and education, are looked down on and treated as a drag on the economic well being of society.In this country the first thing to be cut is education.

In other countries, especially in Europe, Korea, China and Japan, among others, education is the first thing to get an increase in aid year after year.

When the Berlin Wall came down, within days, Germany started pouring money into education and services for the elderly, in the former East Germany as they had for so long in the former West Germany. The absloute two very thingsm in this country, that are the first to get the budget ax.

In each and every country that leads the way in education achievement, such as Finland, Germany, Norway, France, Korea, Japan and China, among others, education is something that is higlyh sought after and valued. Teachers, in those countries, are revered and highly regarded for their role in society. I have been fortunate enough to have been in classrooms in many of those countries. In some cases, I have even lectured , in English, and everyone understood me. They questions that were asked were amazing. It was an eye opening experience. The questions that were asked by students, of a wide range of ages,were incredible and very, very insightful.

Over the last few decades, in the USA, teachers, in addition to teaching, have had to take one the role social worker, psychologist, and even, you might say, police officer. That is not something teachers have not had to do in other countries. So, in other countries more time, and effort, is reserved for teahcing and the results speak for themselves.

In addition, in the USA,teachers are required to take more and more classes, especially, on children at risk, to keep their certifiation. Beause of more and more and still more government regulations, and paperwork, teachers work far, far more than just 7 months. They are still working long after the students have gone on summer vacation and start working, again, several weeks, before the new school year starts.




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