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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: bigluke23
Jun 12, 2012 - 01:28 am
JnJ writes:
bigluke23 writes:
JnJ writes:
I don't think a whole scale nation wide plummet of real estate values had to happen. I think its one more thing we can thank the Obama economy for.



Wow...just wow.



wow yourself.



As a realtor, didn't you think the houses you were selling in 2007 and 2008 were grossly overpriced?


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: HipKat
Jun 12, 2012 - 05:47 am
Remember who you're talking to Lucas....

This one makes Chrissy Snow look like an Accountant for HSBC


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: JnJ
Jun 12, 2012 - 07:32 am
Realtors don't set the prices for homes - buyers and Sellers do. It's not up to me or you as individuals to designate what constitutes value. It's a commodity that fluctuates according to supply and demand. Would you say that gold, for instance, is "grossy overpriced"?

Personally, I think Ford Explorers right now are "grossly overpriced", but the market begs to differ.


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: JnJ
Jun 12, 2012 - 07:40 am
leslie110 writes:
JnJ writes:
A correction may have been in order but what happened was catastrophic and it didn't need to happen.



What could've stopped it, in your opinion?



A robust economy would be a good start. Low unemployment, fiscal responsibility in our state, local and national government (translates to consumer confidence). Basically the same good fiscal management that keeps you financially solvent.

Another big problem with foreclosures is that some homeowners trash the properties prior to vacating them and strip them of such things as air/conditioners, furnaces, doors, fixtures, etc. They leave the water on or the furnace blasting, for instance. By the time the bank gets posession they are in essence destroyed. Then they get picked up by Fannie Mae, are sold for pennies on the dollar and you and I end up picking up the tab. People should face criminal prosecution for these acts. I've heard this is particularly bad in Florida right now.


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: Sterling
Jun 12, 2012 - 10:28 am
Clearly, the problem with these polls is that we have these polls to begin with. Fear not, my fellow Americans, our Representatives are working on making sure these poll results will not be repeated... because we'll just get rid of the polling.

In case you missed it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/
And in case you don't trust Ezra Klein: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-05-10/kill

This specific poll did not come from the ACS, but this is the kind of thing the ACS measures.

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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
Jun 12, 2012 - 09:24 pm
Peoria was some what buffered from the housing bubble.

Sure we had our problems, but they were minor compared to what was happening in FL, CA, NY...We didn't have as much of a real estate inflation bubble, so there wasn't as much of a deflation when the market collapsed.

Trying to put some type of guilt/blame on to JNJ for being a Realtor is frankly ridiculous.


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: Pock
Jun 12, 2012 - 09:41 pm
joepyeweed writes:
Trying to put some type of guilt/blame on to JNJ for being a Realtor is frankly ridiculous.



Agreed.


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
Jun 12, 2012 - 09:46 pm
Of course, JNJ's lack of understanding of the housing bubble is somewhat alarming for a real-estate agent.

The bubble wasn't caused by realtors, it was caused by an over zealous mortgage market, extremely low interest rates and greed.



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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: Pock
Jun 12, 2012 - 09:50 pm
Be Nice Joe.


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: leslie110
Jun 12, 2012 - 09:51 pm
joepyeweed writes:
Trying to put some type of guilt/blame on to JNJ for being a Realtor is frankly ridiculous.



Who did that?


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
Jun 12, 2012 - 10:26 pm
JnJ writes:
Would you say that gold, for instance, is "grossy overpriced"?



Yes. Gold is grossly overpriced and experiencing a bubble similar to the housing bubble. Precious metals always inflate during a recession. Anyone who buys gold right now is a complete moron. I feel sorry for all the Glen Beck listeners who fall for his buy gold advertising... suckers...

I've sold a bunch of gold in the last few months. Broken jewelry that I've had laying around intending to get fixed someday... I sold a broken bracelet, a few single earrings (where I lost one), and an old necklace that was a gift from an ex-boyfriend that I never wear - I got over a thousand dollars for the collection of gold junk.


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: bigluke23
Jun 12, 2012 - 10:47 pm
joepyeweed writes:
JnJ writes:
Would you say that gold, for instance, is "grossy overpriced"?



Yes. Gold is grossly overpriced and experiencing a bubble similar to the housing bubble. Precious metals always inflate during a recession. Anyone who buys gold right now is a complete moron. I feel sorry for all the Glen Beck listeners who fall for his buy gold advertising... suckers...

I've sold a bunch of gold in the last few months. Broken jewelry that I've had laying around intending to get fixed someday... I sold a broken bracelet, a few single earrings (where I lost one), and an old necklace that was a gift from an ex-boyfriend that I never wear - I got over a thousand dollars for the collection of gold junk.



I did that too...I couldn't believe how much it was worth. Guns, gold, and God are all we have


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: JnJ
Jun 12, 2012 - 11:37 pm
"Trying to put some type of guilt/blame on to JNJ for being a Realtor is frankly ridiculous"



"Of course, JNJ's lack of understanding of the housing bubble is somewhat alarming for a real-estate agent."



Stroke my cheek with one hand and smack it with the other! Wonder which Joepy will show up next.

The bubble wasn't caused by realtors, it was caused by an over zealous mortgage market, extremely low interest rates and greed. ..




Realtor is a brand name, and is therefore capitalized. And disecting your attributions above, I will pay $1000 to anyone who can bring forth a buyer that says they were at the closing table under duress or threat of life. "Caused by over-zealous mortgage market" - I have no idea what you mean by that other than lenders being required to make loans to people who couldn't afford them and finally, regarding "extremely low interest rates" - odd, given that the interest rates today are about 35% lower than when the crisis started. People that I know that work day in and day out in the real estate industry pretty much guffaw at these generic allegations.


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: leslie110
Jun 12, 2012 - 11:46 pm
JnJ writes:
Stroke my cheek with one hand and smack it with the other!



I recently read 50 Shades of Grey...apparently some people really like that kind of thing.


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Re: Family net worth plummets nearly 40%
By: HipKat
Jun 13, 2012 - 12:12 am
JnJ writes:

Realtor is a brand name, and is therefore capitalized.


Deflection....

JnJ writes:

And disecting your attributions above, I will pay $1000 to anyone who can bring forth a buyer that says they were at the closing table under duress or threat of life. "Caused by over-zealous mortgage market" - I have no idea what you mean by that other than lenders being required to make loans to people who couldn't afford them and finally, regarding "extremely low interest rates" - odd, given that the interest rates today are about 35% lower than when the crisis started. People that I know that work day in and day out in the real estate industry pretty much guffaw at these generic allegations.



No they were under the guise of being fed a bunch of BS about how they CAN afford to live in a house that they couldn't really afford because hey had a really great credit score (and a bad Debt To Income Ratio) or were such great budgeters (because they had a low DTI abut an equally low credit score) by greedy, commission driven realtors who had financial managers that knew which banks would buy these junk loans.


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