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Changes in the Catholic Mass
Nov 27, 2011 - 02:46 pm
Who else said like twelve wrong lines today? Even with the supplied cheat sheet I couldn't get it right. This might take the rest of my lifetime to figure it out and not just the new lines, but what they mean!


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
Nov 27, 2011 - 06:45 pm
I did okay with the sheet. But most didn't even bother to pick up the sheet or attempt the changes....

At the end of the mass, one of the priests did announcements and also briefly talked about the changes and reminded everyone there are sheets in the pew and/or you can use the missal (sp?). Directly after the priest delivering the mass, did the final blessing...and a strong majority said the wrong thing ("and also with you" instead of "and with your spirit"). The other priest, came back and said, let's do it again..and then, most got it right.

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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
By: themrs916
Nov 28, 2011 - 08:52 am
i am not catholic. i do have to ask though, why would they make changes like that? i thought everything the catholics did was universal in every catholic church.


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
Nov 28, 2011 - 09:08 am
To the best of my knowledge they're trying to bring it closer to the original translation and bring more meaning out of certain responses, sayings and actions. This is coming out of the Vatican, not locally.


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
By: AV8R
Nov 28, 2011 - 08:35 pm
smoke and mirrors. The ONLY way to Heaven is through a personal relationship with the Savior. Rubbing the rosary and praying to the Virgin Mary is all pomp and circumstance, and the Pope is nothing more than a man.

"Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men, of like nature with you, and we bring you good news, that you should turn from these vain things to a living God, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and all that is in them." Acts 14:15


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
Nov 29, 2011 - 12:58 pm
The Catholic mass is a universal tradition practiced globally.
Praying the rosary or praying to Mary is no different than anyone of us asking someone else to pray for a certain intent.


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
By: malachite
Nov 29, 2011 - 05:57 pm
AV8R doesn't seem to like it when the atheists troll the christian threads, but a protestant trolling a catholic thread is apparently OK.

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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
Nov 29, 2011 - 07:24 pm
I find it very amusing when protestants preach "my church is better than your church" - so very christian, isn't it?


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
By: AV8R
Nov 29, 2011 - 07:44 pm
No church is better than any church. They are all mans way to try to reach God on man's terms. I'd rather reach God on God's terms. Biblical Christianity. You should try it sometime, it IS very Christian.

The pope is an icon, a human being in fancy clothes. He borders on being a false idol. Religious traditions, despite being global, are another of man's folly. Sorry if that offends you. I too pray for an intent, God's will. Nothing more.

When I pray for someone to get healed, I pray that healing is God's will, and if not that he provide them and the family with peace and the strength of the Holy Spirit. To assume I can convince God to bend to my will is just beyond the pale.


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
By: AV8R
Nov 29, 2011 - 07:56 pm
malachite writes:
AV8R doesn't seem to like it when the atheists troll the christian threads, but a protestant trolling a catholic thread is apparently OK.



If you're going to try and dis me, do endeavor to be correct at least, malachite. I don't think atheists should troll the Religious FORUM, not threads about Christians. Two separate things, and not a minor distinction either.

That said, I wasn't aware that atheism is a religion. Catholic and Protestant are, so since you jump to the erroneous conclusion that I'm a Protestant, it would seem that I could comment on this thread, although I don't consider myself associated with any denominational religion per se. Too many man made beliefs, traditions and trappings that have no basis in Scripture.


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
Nov 30, 2011 - 10:02 am
Jesus practiced jewish traditions.

Why do we celebrate christmas on Dec. 25th? Tradition (following the pagan tradition of solstice celebration)

Why do you break bread at a christian service? Tradition.

Religion is full of tradition. It is important not to make the tradition more important than the faith. There is nothing wrong with tradition, as long as you recognize where it comes from and why you are doing it.


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
By: Seal
Nov 30, 2011 - 03:27 pm
Christianity, the most successful cult in the history of man.



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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
Nov 30, 2011 - 09:27 pm
You people will again certainly see the distinction between a righteous one and a wicked one, between one serving God and one who has not served him.—Mal. 3:18.

As you reflect on those words, ask yourself: ‘Do I blend in with the world, or do I stand out as different? Do I always strive to fit in with my secular associates, whether at school or at work, or do I remain firm for Bible principles, even speaking up when appropriate?’ (1 Pet. 3:16) Of course, we do not want to appear self-righteous, but we should stand out as different from those who do not love and serve Jehovah. If you see room for improvement, why not pray about the matter and seek spiritual strength through regular Bible study, prayer, and meeting attendance? The more God’s Word becomes a part of you, the more you will produce “fine fruit,” including “the fruit of lips which make public declaration to [God’s] name.”—Matt. 7:17; Heb. 13:15


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
By: crodseth
Nov 30, 2011 - 10:12 pm
AV8R writes:
malachite writes:
AV8R doesn't seem to like it when the atheists troll the christian threads, but a protestant trolling a catholic thread is apparently OK.



If you're going to try and dis me, do endeavor to be correct at least, malachite. I don't think atheists should troll the Religious FORUM, not threads about Christians. Two separate things, and not a minor distinction either.

That said, I wasn't aware that atheism is a religion. Catholic and Protestant are, so since you jump to the erroneous conclusion that I'm a Protestant, it would seem that I could comment on this thread, although I don't consider myself associated with any denominational religion per se. Too many man made beliefs, traditions and trappings that have no basis in Scripture.



Aetheism is actually a religion, by definition. It's a belief, just as much as Christianity or Buddhism or (gasp) Islam. Look up the definition of "religion".


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
Dec 1, 2011 - 08:48 am
Atheists have as much faith there is no God as a christian has faith that there is one.

I think there are more agnostics than atheists.


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Re: Changes in the Catholic Mass
By: AV8R
Dec 1, 2011 - 09:09 pm
crodseth writes:
Aetheism is actually a religion, by definition. It's a belief, just as much as Christianity or Buddhism or (gasp) Islam. Look up the definition of "religion".



religion circa 1300: state of life bound by monastic vows," also "conduct indicating a belief in a divine power," from Anglo-Fr. religiun (11c.), from O.Fr. religion "religious community," from L. religionem (nom. religio) "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods,"

Source: online etymology dictionary


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