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National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge Amm...
By: Pock
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:23 am
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Why would the National Weather Service need to purchase large quantities of powerful ammo? That’s the question many are asking after the federal agency followed in the footsteps of the Department of Homeland Security in putting out a solicitation for 46,000 rounds of hollow point bullets.

www.infowars.com/national-weather-service-follows-dhs-in-huge-ammo-purchase/


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By: AV8R
Aug 14, 2012 - 06:31 pm
Not a good time to be a volunteer weather spotter I guess.


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Re: National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge...
Aug 14, 2012 - 07:08 pm
Maybe they are going to seed the clouds with bullets to generate some rainfall?


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Re: National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge...
By: AV8R
Aug 14, 2012 - 07:18 pm
If any of that rain falls on your property in this state, you damn wel better have a FOID card!


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Aug 14, 2012 - 08:05 pm
If any of that rain falls on your property in this state, you damn wel better have a FOID card!




@AV8R:

I left all my guns in WI at my parents house, so I wouldn't have to get a FOID card.

When I first moved here, I didn't know that you needed the card to buy bullets, I thought you just needed the card to own a gun. I just about got arrested at Walmart because I tried to buy four boxes of 22 shells and I didn't have an FOID card. The bullets were a traditional stocking stuffer for my brothers at Christmas time. Now they get fishing lures instead.


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Re: National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge...
By: AV8R
Aug 14, 2012 - 10:19 pm
Rofl. Mine are in michigan at a relatives house for the same reason!


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By: shifty
Aug 14, 2012 - 10:40 pm
What exactly is the problem with getting a FOID? I guess I understand it's a bit of a hassle, but is there some tin-foil bull**** that I didn't get the memo on?

Also, infowars is basically the Enquirer.


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Re: National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge...
By: AV8R
Aug 15, 2012 - 06:37 pm
the problem is that I refuse to allow the state of Illinois to sell me my constitutionally guaranteed right as if it is a privilege. I am also not sold on the idea of doing time in IDOC for no other reason than this state wipes its ass with the Constitution.


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Re: National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge...
By: Sterling
Aug 16, 2012 - 09:43 am
AV8R says:
the problem is that I refuse to allow the state of Illinois to sell me my constitutionally guaranteed right as if it is a privilege. I am also not sold on the idea of doing time in IDOC for no other reason than this state wipes its ass with the Constitution.


There are only 27 words in the Second Amendment, yet people always seem to gloss over the second and third words: "well regulated".

There's an argument to be made that the government would be "wiping its ass with the Constitution" if they weren't actively involved in regulating firearms.

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Re: National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge...
By: AV8R
Aug 16, 2012 - 09:50 pm
I'm not glossing over anything. "Well regulatedz' is immediately followed by "militia."

The Supreme Court ruled in District of Columbia v. Heller "The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."

Two years later, in McDonald v. Chicago, the Supreme Court applied the Heller ruling, in essence the individual RIGHT to keep and bear arms. to the states via the 14th Amendment.

Bottom line, I have a constitutionally guaranteed INDIVIDUAL RIGHT to keep and bear arms guaranteed to me by the United States Constitution, and applicable to the states through the 14th Amendment. So tell me again Sterling, how is it OK for the state of Illinois to force me, under threat of incarceration, to have to register that right with them prior to exercising it, and then to charge me money to do so? To add insult to injury, the RIGHT that I have to register with the state has an expiration date!

What's next, @sterling? Pony up a few dollars to register your right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure? How about due process? "Oh, I'm sorry sir, we don't need a search warrant to search your house, I see here you have not registered with the state so you don't enjoy that right!"

Would you be on here supporting that as well?

And before you claim I'm some seperatist nutjob, I don't mind paying vehicle registration fees or driver license fees, I don't even mind being required to register my federal pilots license with the state prior to exercising the privileges of an airman in this state...because those are all PRIVILEGES. I don't have a Constitutionally protected right to drive, or to fly. I am granted those privileges by the state, and/or the federal government. No beef there.

Not so with firearms. That is a RIGHT. No question about that.

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Re: National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge...
By: Sterling
Aug 17, 2012 - 01:16 pm
AV8R says:
What's next, @sterling? Pony up a few dollars to register your right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure? How about due process? "Oh, I'm sorry sir, we don't need a search warrant to search your house, I see here you have not registered with the state so you don't enjoy that right!"


You mean like paying a few bucks to get a state-issued photo ID to vote? Luckily we don't have to worry about that in this state though.

What happens at the intersection of your right to bear arms and my right to safety and security from people not as responsible as you with their firearms? How do we even determine who those people are? Do your rights trump mine? Do mine trump yours? Who makes that call?

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Re: National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge...
By: Pock
Aug 17, 2012 - 02:03 pm

What happens at the intersection of your right to bear arms and my right to safety and security from people not as responsible as you with their firearms? How do we even determine who those people are? Do your rights trump mine? Do mine trump yours? Who makes that call?




@Sterling:
Certain Men beat women, does that give the government permission to put a camera in my bedroom to prevent those who are not as responsible as myself, or AV8R?

I'm not so much worried about who makes the call, but more so; wheres that line?


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Re: National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge...
By: shifty
Aug 17, 2012 - 11:54 pm
How many of the Bill of Rights amendments are supported, directly or indirectly, through fees or taxation?
The vast majority are based on enforcement of associated supporting laws, which of course is performed by public servants paid for by taxes.

Think about it; You are paying taxes to house soldiers who would otherwise be shacking up in your basement if it wasn't for that glorious 3rd amendment, for free, no less!

But, I can understand how paying $10 for a FOID card every 10 years is quite an onerous and oppressive requirement. Particularly when one considers that it probably costs the state quite a bit more than that to perform background checks and maintain databases of ineligible felons, domestic abusers and restraining order subjects.


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Re: National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge...
By: AV8R
Aug 18, 2012 - 06:00 pm
I also don't want to be in their database. When the **** hits the fan, I can get to where my guns are in about 3 hours and neither the state nor the federal government know where, how many or what caliber they are.


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Re: National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge...
By: 1ITGuy
Aug 18, 2012 - 10:28 pm
I also don\'t want to be in their database. When the **** hits the fan, I can get to where my guns are in about 3 hours and neither the state nor the federal government know where, how many or what caliber they are.




@AV8R:

....until this post turned on some sort of surveillance....


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