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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
By: anonymous
Jul 26, 2012 - 03:12 pm
How about the fact that the day AFTER Jim Henson's company said they wouldn't supply toys for the company's kid's meals because of the issue, Chick-fil-a issued a press release saying the toys were pulled because of safety issues. It's all good to stand for what you believe in, but stand behind in 100% and don't try to weasel out of the PR $hit$torm you created.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/jim-henson-comp

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/coincidence

And to top it off, it appears that the company has made "fake" facebook profiles in order to stem the tide of the $hit$torm.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/07/25/c

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By: lanestar7
Jul 26, 2012 - 03:39 pm
Disagreement does not equal hatred. Chick-Fil-A doesn't support "hate groups." They support groups that oppose same-sex marriage.




@cjsummers:

One of the "charities" that Chick-fil-a's Winshape Foundation donates millions a year to is the Family Research Council. Here is a statement made by a researcher at the FRC:

"The Family Research Council's Senior Researcher for Policy Studies Peter Sprigg was criticized[18] when he, in his official capacity as a fellow of the FRC,[19] stated that gay behavior should be outlawed and that "criminal sanctions against homosexual behavior" should be enforced."

Not a hate group?? How do you define hate, CJ?


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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
By: cjsummers
Jul 26, 2012 - 03:56 pm
Not supporting same-sex marriage means you don't support equal rights for all Americans, and that is discrimination. I call it hate.



@tapeworm:

Your statement is begging the question. Whether same-sex couples have a legal (i.e., civil) right to marry is the very question being debated in our culture today.

But let me make my point another way. I could just as easily say that supporting same-sex marriage means you don't support religious freedom for all Americans, and that is discrimination. Should I now label your support of same-sex marriage hate speech? I think not. I think it's more helpful to recognize that people of good will can disagree on controversial topics, but that doesn't mean they hate each other.


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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
Jul 26, 2012 - 03:59 pm
Tape it is the companies belief, however you can tell the the CEO has never been to a broiler house because chickens are about the gayest animals there is they are always jumping on each others backs.




@meanjarhead:

WTH?




@stayathomemommy:

Commercial breed chickens (cornish rock broilers) Hatch out at about 80% male which are called cockerals, Cockerals go into the broiler house so there is 250000 male birds in one building. they are always hopping on each others backs and going at it. No i am not into chicken porn i just know a couple of contract growers for Purdue.


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Jul 26, 2012 - 04:01 pm
Not supporting same-sex marriage means you don't support equal rights for all Americans, and that is discrimination. I call it hate.



@tapeworm:

Your statement is begging the question. Whether same-sex couples have a legal (i.e., civil) right to marry is the very question being debated in our culture today.

But let me make my point another way. I could just as easily say that supporting same-sex marriage means you don't support religious freedom for all Americans, and that is discrimination. Should I now label your support of same-sex marriage hate speech? I think not. I think it's more helpful to recognize that people of good will can disagree on controversial topics, but that doesn't mean they hate each other.




@cjsummers:

Gay people have just as much right to be as misserable as strait people let them get married. So what if there isn't ckicken sandwiches at the reception.

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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
By: tapeworm
Jul 26, 2012 - 04:19 pm
I could just as easily say that supporting same-sex marriage means you don't support religious freedom for all Americans, and that is discrimination.



@cjsummers:

how does supporting gay marriage affect anyones religious freedom? i don't follow...

unless you're insinuating that religious freedom = dictating how other people live their lives?

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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
By: anonymous
Jul 26, 2012 - 04:35 pm
I think it's pretty chicken $hit that Chick-fil-a doesn't just get all loud and proud and say "We're a family company and we hate fags." Just own it....all this mealy mouth b.s., back pedaling, etc....shows how completely out of touch they are with consumers. Like they're SURPRISED folks would be offended by their stance!

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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
Jul 26, 2012 - 04:48 pm
I think it's pretty chicken $hit that Chick-fil-a doesn't just get all loud and proud and say "We're a family company and we hate fags." Just own it....all this mealy mouth b.s., back pedaling, etc....shows how completely out of touch they are with consumers. Like they're SURPRISED folks would be offended by their stance!




@anonymous:

Its a religous wacko thing. like the Westbero baptist a$$holes.


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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
By: cjsummers
Jul 26, 2012 - 04:48 pm
@lanestar7:

Wikipedia took that quote out of context. He was commenting on the Lawrence v. Texas ruling. He was not giving an FRC policy statement.

@tapeworm:

Churches/pastors could be sued for discrimination if they refused to marry same-sex couples if same-sex marriage were legally declared a civil right, for instance, even though marrying same-sex couples would violate their religious beliefs. Catholic Charities can no longer provide adoption services because the state was going to force them to place adopted children in same-sex households, which goes against their religious beliefs.


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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
By: tapeworm
Jul 26, 2012 - 05:34 pm
@cjsummers

umm same-sex marriage being a civil right does not "require" a church to marry same-sex individuals, same as they're not "required" to marry opposite-sex individuals if they don't see fit. likewise for adoption.

this has nothing to do with your religious freedom and everything to do with you wanting to dictate others. forcing irreversible circumcision on children is another great example; it isn't about you or your beliefs, it's about equal rights for everyone, most importantly the right to choose for oneself.

if you honestly believe you have the right to tell others that they don't (and shouldn't) have the same rights as you, then you are a disgusting, horrible human being and i have no interest in discussing this further with you.


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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
Jul 26, 2012 - 06:03 pm
.....and I simple won't go there because it is a chain restaurant....


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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
By: cjsummers
Jul 26, 2012 - 08:22 pm
@tapeworm:

Well, it already has had an effect on adoptions by faith-based organizations, so you're incorrect about the ramifications on religious freedom. Your other comments are presumptuous and hateful, so I see no benefit in furthering this discussion.


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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
By: JW
Jul 26, 2012 - 09:26 pm


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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
By: anonymous
Jul 26, 2012 - 09:27 pm
@ cjsummers AND @ tapeworm

How in the world (CJ) does calling a fast food company CEO out on his beliefs have anything to do with adoption? FWIW, the Catholic Church would be well served reviewing the recent reports on Penn State. But that's the problem, the Catholic Church gets to hide behind their "non-profit" and religious status.....despite the billions of medicaid/medicare (read: taxpayer) dollars they accept each year.

The Affordable Care Act is an attempt to make the Catholic Church play by the same rules as everyone else.

I could care less if the CEO of that chicken place hates gays....but knowing he's a bigot helps me decide where I choose to spend my money. I'm more peeved that now he's been called out, he's trying to duck and weave.....

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Re: Chick-fil-A gets opposition in Chicago, not ...
By: Pock
Jul 26, 2012 - 09:32 pm
Americans are too damn nosy.


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