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Re: Walker Results
Jun 6, 2012 - 10:27 am
Mahkno writes:
Walker's strong win, renewed and improved mandate opens up new possibilities for WI in anti-union efforts.

Right-to-Work?



The democrats took control of the State Senate so right to work legislation won't go through.

Its certainly a victory for citizens united.

Walker's Republican campaign outspent Barrett's Democratic campaign by $30.5 million to $4 million -- that's a 7.5 to 1 advantage. Another way of saying this is that of the $34.5 million spent on their campaigns, Walker spend 88% of the money.

Walker beat Barrett by 1,316,989 votes to 1,145,190 votes -- 53% to 46% (with 1% going to an independent candidate).

Here's another way of saying that: Walker spent $23 for each vote he received, while Barrett spent only $3.47 per vote.

But the reality is even worse than this, because the $34.5 million figure does not include so-called independent expenditures and issue ads paid for primarily by out-of-state billionaires (like the Koch brothers, Sheldon Adelson and Joe Ricketts), business groups, and the National Rifle Association, which were skewed even more heavily toward Walker. Once all this additional spending is calculated, we'll see that total spending in this race could be more than double the $34.5 million number, that Walker and his business allies outspent Barrett by an even wider margin, and that he had to spend even more than $23 for each vote.

In other words, business and billionaires bought this election for Walker. The money paid for non-stop TV and radio ads, as well as mailers. There's no doubt that if the Barrett campaign had even one-third of the war-chest that Walker had, it would have been able to mount an even more formidable grassroots get-out-the-vote campaign and put more money into the TV and radio air war. Under those circumstances, it is likely that Barrett would have prevailed.

Pundits can have a field day pontificating about the Wisconsin election, but in the end it's about how Big Money hijacked democracy in the Badger State on Tuesday, and how they're trying to do it again in November.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/wisconsin

Republican's love government so much that they want to buy it.


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Re: Walker Results
By: bigluke23
Jun 6, 2012 - 12:30 pm
Wow...Peter Dreier...that's a source I should take seriously.


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Re: Walker Results
Jun 6, 2012 - 01:28 pm
the number's don't really change, no matter what the source. - The facts are the winner spends more money... its how Obama won too.


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Re: Walker Results
By: leslie110
Jun 6, 2012 - 01:31 pm
I don't think Obama won because of money...sure he had more money but I don't think McCain really stood much of a chance regardless.


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Re: Walker Results
By: bigluke23
Jun 6, 2012 - 01:55 pm
McCain had no shot. Jesus could have run in 2008, and if he had an R next to his name, he wouldn't have stood a chance.


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Re: Walker Results
Jun 6, 2012 - 02:02 pm
70% of Walker's money came from outside the state of WI.


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Re: Walker Results
By: Sterling
Jun 6, 2012 - 02:10 pm
bigluke23 writes:
McCain had no shot. Jesus could have run in 2008, and if he had an R next to his name, he wouldn't have stood a chance.


And if Jesus ran this year, he'd still have no shot, because he isn't conservative enough to have won the primaries.

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Re: Walker Results
By: leslie110
Jun 6, 2012 - 02:29 pm
Sterling writes:
bigluke23 writes:
McCain had no shot. Jesus could have run in 2008, and if he had an R next to his name, he wouldn't have stood a chance.


And if Jesus ran this year, he'd still have no shot, because he isn't conservative enough to have won the primaries.



Amen! Jesus was a liberal, lol!


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Re: Walker Results
Jun 6, 2012 - 02:37 pm
According to today's republican's, Reagan was a liberal too.


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Re: Walker Results
By: AV8R
Jun 6, 2012 - 06:06 pm
Jesus has no need to run. When he comes back, he will be the ruler. Period.


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Re: Walker Results
By: AV8R
Jun 6, 2012 - 06:14 pm
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AV8R writes:
I know they deny it, but this does not bode well for someone this fall....



No it is you that is in denial big time.



Big time, eh?


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Re: Walker Results
By: HipKat
Jun 6, 2012 - 06:43 pm
AV8R writes:
Jesus has no need to run. When he comes back, he will be the ruler. Period.



Amen!


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Re: Walker Results
By: AV8R
Jun 6, 2012 - 07:47 pm
JnJ writes:
The exit polling also indicated the race would be tight. The exit polls were wrong. Even CNN said that they needed to move Wisconsin from the blue column to a toss-up. If the exit polls were ten points off, that would mean if the election were held tonight, Romney and Obama would be in a dead heat.



Pretty much spot on with what Michael Barone opined today:

The Wisconsin exit poll evidently reported the race for governor in the recall ballot as 50%-50%. With 92% of the vote in, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel’s excellent website reports the score as 54%-46% Walker. Let’s say that’s the final results: only 13% of precincts from Milwaukee County and 3% of precincts from Madison’s Dane County — the Democrats’ two reservoirs of big majorities — remain uncounted. It has been emblazoned on mainstream media that the exit poll also showed Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney in the state 51%-45%. But if you think the exit poll was 4% too Democratic — and that’s in line with exit poll discrepancies with actual vote results over the last decade, as documented by the exit poll pioneer, the late Warren Mitofsky* — that result looks more like 49%-47% Romney. Or assume the remaining Milwaukee County precincts whittle Republican Governor Scott Walker’s margin over Democratic Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett to 53%-47%, which looks likely, the Obama-Romney numbers would look like 48%-48%.



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Re: Walker Results
By: JnJ
Jun 6, 2012 - 10:06 pm

The democrats took control of the State Senate so right to work legislation won't go through.



That was a hollow victory for the Democrats. Even though they technically "took control" of the state senate, the senate is not in session... and, that seat is up for re-election in November. The possibility of a "right to work" debate is unchanged by the events of yesterday.


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Re: Walker Results
By: JnJ
Jun 6, 2012 - 10:12 pm
AV8R writes:
JnJ writes:
The exit polling also indicated the race would be tight. The exit polls were wrong. Even CNN said that they needed to move Wisconsin from the blue column to a toss-up. If the exit polls were ten points off, that would mean if the election were held tonight, Romney and Obama would be in a dead heat.



Pretty much spot on with what Michael Barone opined today:

The Wisconsin exit poll evidently reported the race for governor in the recall ballot as 50%-50%. With 92% of the vote in, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel’s excellent website reports the score as 54%-46% Walker. Let’s say that’s the final results: only 13% of precincts from Milwaukee County and 3% of precincts from Madison’s Dane County — the Democrats’ two reservoirs of big majorities — remain uncounted. It has been emblazoned on mainstream media that the exit poll also showed Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney in the state 51%-45%. But if you think the exit poll was 4% too Democratic — and that’s in line with exit poll discrepancies with actual vote results over the last decade, as documented by the exit poll pioneer, the late Warren Mitofsky* — that result looks more like 49%-47% Romney. Or assume the remaining Milwaukee County precincts whittle Republican Governor Scott Walker’s margin over Democratic Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett to 53%-47%, which looks likely, the Obama-Romney numbers would look like 48%-48%.



Let the record reflect that I said it first



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