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Re: Death penalty yes or no
Apr 3, 2012 - 07:19 pm
joepyeweed writes:
meanjarhead writes:
My tat Exodus 21:24



Matthew 5:38

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[g] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.



Anyone slaps me i will punch them in the C__ksucker simple.


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Re: Death penalty yes or no
By: bwiser
Apr 3, 2012 - 07:21 pm
What leslie said

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Re: Death penalty yes or no
By: AV8R
Apr 3, 2012 - 07:41 pm
joepyeweed writes:

You may have to read the entire book to get the essence of that. We can cherry pick out individual verses but without context of the entire story they don't mean much.



Why joe, how typically condescending of you.


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Re: Death penalty yes or no
By: HipKat
Apr 3, 2012 - 08:22 pm
I've always said no. I still do.

Ten Commandments say "Thou Shalt Not Kill."

I don't see a disclaimer making it OK if it's in the name of man-made justice


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Re: Death penalty yes or no
By: AV8R
Apr 3, 2012 - 08:26 pm
the commandment refers to murder. It lost some in the translation. The Bible, both old and new Testaments, clearly does not prohibit the death penalty. Jesus was not opposed to it either, as some claim.


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Re: Death penalty yes or no
By: HipKat
Apr 3, 2012 - 08:30 pm
Regardless, even before I was a believer, I used that commandment to illustrate why I say no to the death penalty.

I just don't see it as a deterrent, and in some ways, these people are like martyrs, especially when they are falsely sent to death row


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Re: Death penalty yes or no
Apr 3, 2012 - 08:38 pm
Not just yes, but hell yes!

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Re: Death penalty yes or no
By: Adnilem50
Apr 3, 2012 - 08:55 pm
No, Illinois alone has found out through new technology uses that they have put to death at least 13 "guilty" people who were found to be innocent.

Can you imagine how that person felt as they were being put to death? They knew they were innocent and no one believed them. I am a highly empathic person, and that break my heart. Maybe that's my downfall, I care.


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Re: Death penalty yes or no
By: HipKat
Apr 3, 2012 - 08:57 pm
Adnilem50 writes:
No, Illinois alone has found out through new technology uses that they have put to death at least 13 "guilty" people who were found to be innocent.

Can you imagine how that person felt as they were being put to death? They knew they were innocent and no one believed them. I am a highly empathic person, and that break my heart. Maybe that's my downfall, I care.



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Re: Death penalty yes or no
By: AV8R
Apr 3, 2012 - 08:59 pm
Clearly that is your downfall.


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Re: Death penalty yes or no
Apr 3, 2012 - 09:25 pm
Are you sure the guy who preached this would support the death penalty?

27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.
   32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.


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Re: Death penalty yes or no
By: AV8R
Apr 3, 2012 - 09:31 pm
yes I am.


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Re: Death penalty yes or no
Apr 3, 2012 - 09:38 pm
I don't understand how people who can read this can believe the death penalty is okay.

17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[d] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:
   “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; 
   if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. 
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”[e]
 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.


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Re: Death penalty yes or no
By: AV8R
Apr 3, 2012 - 09:46 pm
this could go on forever, so this is my last post, at least from the Biblical perspective:

"for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer." Romans 13:4


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Re: Death penalty yes or no
Apr 3, 2012 - 09:46 pm
joepye you can not overcome evil with good. Do you think world war 2 would have ended by giving Hitler a hug?


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