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HipKat writes:
It's an undeniable fact, I'm poor... lol



Wealth is relative too. Compared to some of my friends in Haiti, Hip you are rich.


Aug 22, 2011 - 05:50 pm
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Facts, can vary from person to person its all relative and directly correlates to their perception.

At one point it was a "fact" that the earth was flat, only because everybody believed that to be true. Facts, are fluid and change regularly based on the current knowledge.

Some people currently don't believe in Christianity, others do...Some would say it is a fact that Jesus existed, others would say it is a fact he did not. Who is correct, nobody will ever know till its to late to prove they are right.



Indeed. There are countless things Science and people alike considered facts,That there were 10 planets, then 9, now 8... Known elements, etc. The world being flat is another, the number of Insect Orders, it was a well known fact there were only 30 know orders of insects, now that number stands at 31, after nearly 100 years of 30 being a "fact".

The Bush Administration went in-front of the UN with information they said was factual. I'm sure we could even find some Youtube clips of Powell in front of the UN selling that garbage.


Aug 22, 2011 - 06:21 pm
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joepyeweed writes:
HipKat writes:
It's an undeniable fact, I'm poor... lol



Wealth is relative too. Compared to some of my friends in Haiti, Hip you are rich.



The proportionate part is based on costs, not earnings. I may make more, but it costs more to live here than it probably does in Haiti.

I was actually OK, until I sank over a month's pay into keeping a vehicle going so i can see my kids over the last 5 weeks. That's a cost I didn't want to deal with.


Aug 22, 2011 - 06:47 pm
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Rick Perry is now backpeddling on his stance that social security is unconstitutional. His campaign advisors seem to be trying to distance the campaign from his book, "Fed up". Let the flip flopping begin. He was against it, before he was for it.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/08/18/perry-is-le

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His book came out 9 months ago...why the sudden change of heart? lol!

Aug 24, 2011 - 09:23 am
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I love Rick Perry and I'm going to vote for him. I don't care what they say about him. I was ready to move back to Texas had they voted to secede. Plus, anybody has got to be better than the bozo currently in office.

Aug 25, 2011 - 07:40 pm
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I love Rick Perry and I'm going to vote for him. I don't care what they say about him. I was ready to move back to Texas had they voted to secede. Plus, anybody has got to be better than the bozo currently in office.



The problem here is that you consider all of the information to be "what they say about him". Typical conservative victimization to blame all of the things your candidate has done and said that you don't like on "they", presumably the "liberal media".
In reality, your candidate happens to have done and said a lot of things that you don't agree with and are a bit unsettling, but you are willing to overlook that for the sake of being "conservative".
This is going to be the mindset of 100% of Perry voters when it comes nomination time.


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I would suggest that everyone read his book. If they agree with what is in the book, then vote for him. I would also suggest that you check the book out from the library, so you don't put any more money in his pocket. ;-)

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froggy writes:
I love Rick Perry and I'm going to vote for him. I don't care what they say about him. I was ready to move back to Texas had they voted to secede. Plus, anybody has got to be better than the bozo currently in office.



If I wasn't already married to her, I'd marry her!


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shifty writes:
froggy writes:
I love Rick Perry and I'm going to vote for him. I don't care what they say about him. I was ready to move back to Texas had they voted to secede. Plus, anybody has got to be better than the bozo currently in office.



The problem here is that you consider all of the information to be "what they say about him". Typical conservative victimization to blame all of the things your candidate has done and said that you don't like on "they", presumably the "liberal media".
In reality, your candidate happens to have done and said a lot of things that you don't agree with and are a bit unsettling, but you are willing to overlook that for the sake of being "conservative".
This is going to be the mindset of 100% of Perry voters when it comes nomination time.



And this wasn't the mindset of 100% of Obama voters in '08?

And for the record, I am not your "typical conservative" so don't lump me in with them. I run the gamut on both sides of the line.

I'm also not stupid enough to believe everything the media publishes, whether good OR bad. There will never be any candidate I agree with 100%--conservative OR liberal--but I am 98% against Obama and everything he stands for and there are no other candidates I believe in that can handle the Oval Office responsibilities better than I think Perry can. He may not be your best choice but I'd rather have him in that position than anyone else. I don't have to agree with everything he believes in. He just has to make me feel safe and secure--and he does. You know why?? Because he can make a decision.


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AV8R writes:
froggy writes:
I love Rick Perry and I'm going to vote for him. I don't care what they say about him. I was ready to move back to Texas had they voted to secede. Plus, anybody has got to be better than the bozo currently in office.



If I wasn't already married to her, I'd marry her!



Righteously so. Haha!!


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AV8R writes:
froggy writes:
I love Rick Perry and I'm going to vote for him. I don't care what they say about him. I was ready to move back to Texas had they voted to secede. Plus, anybody has got to be better than the bozo currently in office.



If I wasn't already married to her, I'd marry her!



If you weren't already married to her, I'd marry her!


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Lol! I love it when men fight over me.

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froggy writes:
shifty writes:
froggy writes:
I love Rick Perry and I'm going to vote for him. I don't care what they say about him. I was ready to move back to Texas had they voted to secede. Plus, anybody has got to be better than the bozo currently in office.



The problem here is that you consider all of the information to be "what they say about him". Typical conservative victimization to blame all of the things your candidate has done and said that you don't like on "they", presumably the "liberal media".
In reality, your candidate happens to have done and said a lot of things that you don't agree with and are a bit unsettling, but you are willing to overlook that for the sake of being "conservative".
This is going to be the mindset of 100% of Perry voters when it comes nomination time.



And this wasn't the mindset of 100% of Obama voters in '08?

And for the record, I am not your "typical conservative" so don't lump me in with them. I run the gamut on both sides of the line.

I'm also not stupid enough to believe everything the media publishes, whether good OR bad. There will never be any candidate I agree with 100%--conservative OR liberal--but I am 98% against Obama and everything he stands for and there are no other candidates I believe in that can handle the Oval Office responsibilities better than I think Perry can. He may not be your best choice but I'd rather have him in that position than anyone else. I don't have to agree with everything he believes in. He just has to make me feel safe and secure--and he does. You know why?? Because he can make a decision.



Oh, he can make a decision alright, it just happens to be a ****ty one in more occasions than not.

http://www.washingtonspectator.org/articles/20110901
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/governor-for-
http://theweek.com/article/index/218627/rick-perrys-
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/26/304672/r

I don't expect you to actually read any of those links(or the hundreds of others), but if you did you would realize that your "safe and secure" choice is a blathering, corrupt fool. For comparison, the issues that Blagojevich was indicted for are nothing compared to the blatant fraud and corruption that Perry has resided over in his tenure.

It's a pretty sad day in American politics when people like Perry and Bachmann even have their day in the sun, much less are considered viable candidates.

Good thing he has zero chance of winning an election outside of TX, hell, he'd be lucky to get re-elected there.

http://i.imgur.com/nF0dh.png


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I was wondering what Obama believes in that you disagree with 100%?

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